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Begonnen von dainismichel, 03. November 2010, 11:29:31

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dainismichel

"Willkommen auf dem Wiki der irrationalen Überzeugungssysteme"

Interesting...I may have just figured it out.

Ja, es scheint dass "Esowatch" ein irrationalies Überzeugungssystem ist.

Can one make the argument that failure to distinguish between belief and fact makes one irrational? If so, then this blog is irrational.

Can you explain the science behind your beliefs?
Do you find calling certain "Überzeugungssysteme" irrational without an explanation of your grounds scientifically sound?




P.Stibbons

ZitatDo you find calling certain "Überzeugungssysteme" irrational without an explanation of your grounds scientifically sound?

Considering the fact that many of us concerned with  EsoWatch Wikipedia  have an academical and professional background in natural sciences, your question seems to be a little bit out of place.
Nevertheless: if you yourself would be a wee bit more precise about your own background and understanding of the word "science" , maybe we could find some common ground...

Skepsis

Zitat von: dainismichel am 03. November 2010, 11:29:31
...Can you explain the science behind your beliefs?
...

As far as I'm concerned: everything that fulfills the definition of scientic method as given by Merriam-Webster:
Zitat: principles and procedures for the systematic pursuit of knowledge involving the recognition and formulation of a problem, the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses

(emphases added).

Gruß


Federvieh

ZitatJa, es scheint dass "Esowatch" ein irrationalies Überzeugungssystem ist.

Calling Esowatch an Überzeugungssystem would be your first fallacy. To even consider the idea Esowatch were irrational is your second.

ZitatCan one make the argument that failure to distinguish between belief and fact makes one irrational?

A belief, when based on examination of factual evidence is rational. In all other cases it is not. A belief not based on fact but still cause for conviction is faith. Esowatch deals with issues on faith, belief and conviction not based on fact. The authors of Esowatch employ rational evaluation techniques to demonstrate irrational and fictional character of such systems, statements and beliefs that portrait a reality that differs dramatically from one supported by scientific evidence.

Someone may still choose to belief in whatever, however, Esowatch at least tried to make them aware of the irrationality their belief is based upon.

All in all. What exactly are you trying to ascertain?

Federvieh

Oh great, the TS offers healing stuff through an online plattform.  One can become a member of said platform for a mere 40 or 100 bucks a month.  ::)

Skepsis

Zitat von: nachteule am 03. November 2010, 15:43:26
Oh great, the TS offers healing stuff through an online plattform....

Well, at least now he has the chance to learn some local flavour of German: Nachtigall, ick hör' Dir trapsen  ;D

Gruß

cohen

Yummie:

Urine Therapy Community Invitation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6CVMLMKTUc

Zitat dainismichel  |   24. Oktober 2008

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  ;D :kotz:


cohen

Zitat von: dainismichel am 03. November 2010, 11:29:31

Can you explain the science behind your beliefs?
Do you find calling certain "Überzeugungssysteme" irrational without an explanation of your grounds scientifically sound?


Could you explain the science behind urine-therapy?

Have you ever drunk you urine after eating asparagus?
How many cycles does the smell stay?

Enkidu

*kotz*
wie kann man freiwillig wieder trinken, was der körper als abfall ausschleust?