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Begonnen von celsus, 29. März 2014, 00:46:22

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celsus

Neulich gab es einen neuen Report über ein "Experiment" mit Rossis eCat, durchgeführt von u.a. Guiseppe Levi, ein aktiver Mitspieler in der Rossi-Show von Anfang an.
Hier das Paper: http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf

Nicht wirklich lesenwert, finde ich, sollte aber archiviert werden. Die Energie-Messung wird diesmal mit einer Wärmebildkamera durchgeführt. Rossi war natürlich selbst anwesend und hatte die Finger im Spiel, von "independent third party test" kann also keine Rede sein.

Auf Arxiv gibt es eine Analyse des Lugano-Reports: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1306/1306.6364.pdf

ZitatA major problem with this test is the many restrictions and conditions that seem to have been imposed by Rossi on the measurement group and their work. In our opinion, a truly independent test, even of a "black box" device, would mean work in our own laboratory, with our own equipment, with only written instructions (and possibly telephone support) by the "inventor", with a measurement method of our own choosing etc. The report indeed states that the aim of the work is "to make an independent test of the E‐Cat HT reactor under controlled conditions ..." (pg 1). However, we note several circumstances that contradict this statement:

i. The first author, G. Levi, has been closely involved in numerous tests and promotions of the E‐Cat together with the inventor, A. Rossi, over the last 2 ½ years. His independence is not as clear as one would wish,

ii. Several of the other authors, at least R. Pettersson and H. Essén, have also participated in previous demonstrations arranged by Rossi and have then to some degree committed to a positive appreciation of the device,

iii. The measurements were done in Rossi's premises in Italy with a corresponding loss of control over important factors in the measurement process,

iv. The "reactor" and its control circuits were operated by personnel assigned by Rossi (in the December test even started before the investigators were given access),

v. Measurements were done on (at least) two different types of devices,

vi. Estimating the heat output by a combination of IR camera measurements and convection calculations represents a new situation compared to previous tests, seemingly imposed by the circumstances (i.e. Rossi) rather than by choice.

Der englische Ausdruck "dog and pony show" passt prima.
The best thing about science is that it works - even if you don't believe in it.

celsus

Hier ist eine schöne Zerlegung des "unabhängigen" Tests.
https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/the-e-cat-cold-fusion-or-scientific-fraud-624f15676f96

Ein Punkt fehlt dabei:
Das verwendete Aluminiumoxid ändert Emissionsgrad und Opazität mit steigender Temperatur. Dadurch wurde die Messung per Wärmebildkamera extrem verfälscht und lässt keine sinnvollen Rückschlüsse auf die tatsächlich abgegebene Energie mehr zu. Das haben die Physiker wohl übersehen.
The best thing about science is that it works - even if you don't believe in it.